Sorry. I still see minor orders in ministerial institutions. Everyone who knows of them knows that they are still a step to the priestood. Opening them up to women will only fuel false hope of women's ordination heretics proponents. It's true, forty years after the council, we're still arguing over what it meant. We're still recovering from it's effects, and as much as I truly beleive it was going to be necessary, and that many good tings came out of it, I can;t help but wish sometimes that some of the things that came after it had not happened. The suppression of minor orders being one.